THIS UNWANTED GARBAGE ORIGINATED FROM AND BROUGHT TO YOU COURTESY OF:
PATRICK PARIS -- THE FEMALE EUNUCH
PATRICK PARIS -- PUNK
PATRICK PARIS -- STINKING PIECE OF FRENCH PIG SHIT
PATRICK PARIS -- FAILED PROGRAMMER
Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
This whole group got flooded much worse than now by Eelbash for many
years and even when I was in a mental institution for a couple of months
the flooding continued (and I was on dail up at the time to add to
that). Then Frog-Admin announces his remailer gone and so are the floods
all of the sudden.
Flawed logic I think Thomas. You're suggesting Frog's demise and the end of
the flooding make the two synonymous. It's equally likely that some other
person who had an obsession with FrogAdmin simply stopped flooding when
Frog went away. There's really no way to know for sure.
Not that I'm defending anyone mind you.
Then Eelbash comes (worse in some ways to Frog-Admin but less damaging
in other ways because noone takes him seriously). And then the minor
floods come.
I'm not even sure I'd call a couple days of random text a flood, but I
suppose that's subjective.
1. I think the floods are linked to remailer load.
Lost me. ???
2. I think someone who hates remailers is behind it.
I think someone who cares little one way or the other is behind it. I think
someone is doing it out of spite for other group participants or just to
feel "cool", and their feelings about remailers in general have nothing at
all to do with it.
A true "hater" would flood other groups, and as far as I'm aware no other
groups were flooded. Of course I just might be clueless here...??
3. I think think Eelbash Admin and Frog-Admin are two distinct persons
No doubt.
4. I think Eelbash *loves* Frog-Admin
5. I think Eelbash is Frog-Admin's 'love child' as he puts it himself
I think that's more information than I need to know. <g>
6. I think Scientology is twisted, secretive and hateful toward
remailers enough to experiment with disrupting the network
I agree with you there. I think that Scientology and Kooks like KRP are
responsible for the vast majority of random usenet abuse, and because of
that, the bulk of the bad reputation Remailers have. :(
7. I think Eelbask and Frog-Admin got something in return for the
flooding
8. http://xenu.net/archive/ot/ can save you a lot of money
9. Remember who got pissed at penet.fi (it was CoS)
Hmmm..... a link between FA and the Cult of Scientology?
Sounds like a basis for the next bockbuster SciFi movie/novel Thomas. Color
up the characters a bit, maybe make the flood a more devious attack, and
make the victim the Iraqi Embassy... you might be on to something. :)
*I* think that if the Co$ was behind some nefarious activity it wouldn't' be
limited to these groups, and they wouldn't give a rat's ass about people
like you and I who took shots at the flooders and those we thought might be
responsible. *I* think their attack would be far more broad and subtle,
like the random abuse that permeates some groups for a while, then seems to
move on once they're bloodied up enough. This is *far* more damaging to
remailers than flooding APAS and a few people who already have their minds
made up about Remailers.
Just my $.02 worth... :)
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Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-Groucho Marx
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Subject: Re: Pingers/Remops: Lunatic Eelbash at it again
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:22:29 +0100 (CET), George Orwell wrote in
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Zax did *not* say that he had put flood filters in his remailer and
added some more.
Correct, my remailer does no filtering.
What Zax said was that his private news server, which he offers up to
the public and has nothing to do with his remailer, had some filters
added to kill the flood. That's all.
Correct again. :)
Filtering at the news server provides people the opportunity to see a
clean feed. Filtering at the remailer forces everyone to see it. Big
difference.
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Subject: Re: Pingers/Remops: Lunatic Eelbash at it again
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Zax <fleegle@bananasplit.info> wrote:
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:30:02 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote in
Message-Id: <e71548d39fc10cd96de796fbf4fc98d8@dizum.com>:
Anonymous <Use-Author-Supplied-Address@[127.1]> wrote:
Zax is not blocking any posts from being sent. He is filtering them
from his news server so that people that choose to use him to *read*
news get the clean feed.
You forget that Zax' mail2news and remailer also post through his news
server.
Banana is Middleman, it doesn't post or mail to anything.
Well, under most circumstances. This was Post:ed through banana. Not sure
if I needed to include hashcash, so I did anyway. Would it Post: to other
groups besides this one?
So I suppose if a person chose to flood some group using banana as an exit,
it could be done.
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