THIS UNWANTED GARBAGE ORIGINATED FROM AND BROUGHT TO YOU COURTESY OF:

PATRICK PARIS -- FAILED HUMAN BEING
PATRICK PARIS -- THE HUMAN MAGGOT
PATRICK PARIS -- SHITBAG FLOODER
PATRICK PARIS -- SCUM OF THE EARTH




On Tue, 08 Nov 2005, Eelbash Admin <admin@eelbash.yi.org> wrote:

BTW, twisty was concerned with altering the content of mail, not the issue
of permitting floods.

No kidding? I could have sworn he blocked me because I announced I had put
in filters to block floods - nothing about altering the content of mail

Maybe twisty misunderstood what he read. Or did I phrase it confusingly?

Well, here it is again:

Agressive flood filters are in place. If you send too many messages
in too rapid succession to the same email address or newsgroup, some
of them may not make it. Sorry about that, but, the psychos have
been busy and I am sure you will understand the need to keep them
from disrupting newsgroups or preying on individuals


I don't see anything there that talks about altering the content of email,
but that's the notice that twisty reacted to.

I happen to be a close friend of twisty. You can tell by my other posts
today. Here is what my friend wrote:

"The twisty re-mailer operates as a common carrier. It is a fully legal
service operating under a business class static IP. The ToS for the ISP
permit business class clients to operate their own mail systems as well as
domain hosting.

By operating a re-mailer, I am legally bound to operate as a common
carrier. To maintain my status as a common carrier and avoid potential
legal problems, under the direct advice of my corporate legal counsel, I
cannot nor will not tamper with any messages sent through this re-mailer.

However, I am permitted to block incoming or outgoing IPs or addresses to
prevent abuse or flooding, or other re-mailers that may be complicit in
violating the common carrier laws.

Since this re-mailer operates within the USA, it is subject to the
applicable laws for a common carrier.

To avoid potential conflict with these laws, I have no choice but to
source and destination block the Eelbash re-mailer as it may at any time
decide to be in violation of the common carrier laws.

I apologize for the inconvenience, but avoiding a possible legal violation
takes precedence."

As you can plainly see, it was not a concern about flooding or flood
filters. He was concerned about altering of message content. For example
when you started the "civil remailer", you violated your common carrier
status under the US laws.

By adding disclaimers to messages sent to some, but not all newsgroups, you
may find yourself in a position that conflicts with the US laws. In effect,
you are changing the message content by acting as a censor to some groups
but not applying it equally to all. That is his dilemma. As I mentioned
before, he is a close friend. We talked about this last night. On the
advice of others and his counsel, he will not write anything more about it.

I am exempted. I do not operate a remailer and have no intention of doing
so.

My suggestions are simple, if you alter message content, you can be in
trouble. If you add lines to some messages, but not all, you are acting as
a censor and can be in violation of certain aspects of the law. If you add
a universal disclaimer to the message body that is added to all messages,
you are OK. Blocking floods is OK. Blocking harrassment mail is OK.

The biggest problem is selectively adding additional comments. That in
effect makes you a censor. Take that into consideration please for your own
well being.

Howard M.

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Subject: Social Security

attentionI did some
reading but really nothing
that made sense Im
really not worried about
lawsuits because Im not
doing anything illegal or
anything that stirs up
trouble I personally will
probably never even say
anything important enough
to get someone mad at
meBut thats dog eat dog
capitalism for you Woe on
whomever tries to escape
the monster and the evil
empire If all remailers
used a disclaimer would
you choose another
remailer Get back to me
when you can write a
sentence which makes
sense  Oh and show me a
relaible site where i can

VANDALS and PUNKS
No I think the REAL stal
ker is the cone who FOLL
OWS somebody into 
newsgroup after newsgroup
and attacks that person
or several people he calls
his MARKS He even
uses the AOL IM ID
MARKGETTER  and he e
ven goes  so far to STALK
he puts up a 50+ page
websitemonitoring and
censorship to destroy the
little bastardsSavoni
says the new law violates
his privacy comparing it to
HIM POOR BABY Anyone
given thought to the
CubansEven if you are one
of the lice remailers that
follow such anThe
employment database is
required to include all
such data maintained by
the Department of
Homeland Security
combined with what the
ven goes  so far to STALK
Social Security
Administration has on file
I may post that as a
separate question but Im
using it here as an
example of things you
normally do in everyday
life but that you will take
the time to reply to this
note with your thoughts on
how such measures
disclaimer and forced From
header would affect your
posting here or to any
newsgroup Would you post
here despite the
disclaimer or would you
continue to post here
Social Security
Administration has on file
I may post that as a
separate question but Im
using it here as an
example of things you
normally do in everyday
life but that you will take
the time to reply to this
note with your thoughts on
how such measures
disclaimer and forced From
header would affect your
posting here or to any
newsgroup Would you post
here despite the
disclaimer or would you
continue to post here
despite the disclaimer or
would you choose another

<<==========>>

Subject: Re: U$@OR,.Y' rgbIR ebS

Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer <nobody@cypherpunks.to> wrote:

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Eelbasher

Around here we have one cable company and about 50 companies offering dsl, so I
assume you have plans to travel the same path Frog-Admin and Eelbash did? He
really was a netcop and not a minus.  Whatever gets them talking,
 the site does the rest. I don't want to hear what life is like there. If I can't
express how much more I am just curious about the incident that was the shabby
thing he did?

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